Do you respect others bcs of Law, or bcs of Ethics?
03/06/2011 at 11:22 AM

Hi Everyone,

This is realy an interesting subject to discuss. Do you respect your nieghbour bcs of Law, or bcs of your Ethics?

Living in the UK since the past 5 months, have noticed that there are lots of issues here related to the civilian law.

Neighbours are very carefull and sensative to each other bcs of the Law.

If you drop a piece of tissue by accident in the front of a house, he would call the police for you and you would get a fine!.

Send her a gift certificate for a spa visit with a note that says you hope she is well. She will probably post info about the baby's birth on the web so you can find out when the baby is born the same way you found out about her anger.


“Our son is hoping Mommy will agree to put his name on the birth certificate and allow him to have shared custody of this child.”

This statement really caught my eye. If you are in the US dad does not need to hope she will do anything. Rather than try and work with someone who is emotional and apparently dramatic, your son needs to hire an attorney and have his rights to his child established by the court. Too many men take the less expensive and seemingly easier approach of trying to work things out with verbal or even written agreements. This approach works in some instances, but fails in most. Her anger at you wondering about the baby tells much about her. She wants to be in control, and will look for any reason to validate her victim mentality. Moving forward without a court order will only place your son in a powerless position that will have him jumping through hoops in an attempt to see his child.


I’m not able to give specifics because I don't know what state the child will reside in, but Dad needs to contact an attorney in the county where the mother lives. I would not mention any of this to her until after the birth. Because the child will be born out of wedlock Dad will need to have paternity established through a DNA test; the court can order her to do this. Once paternity is established Dad can ask the court to order that he then be placed on the birth cert. Because babies lack a schedule, and the 4 hour trip is very long for just weekend visits dad needs to ask for equal visitation and decision making rights. This is a long hard road but I can tell you that in the end, it’s more than worth effort.


Marthann, Congratulations, I am so glad to know that your son has fought for his right to be involved in his child's life, and prevailed. Too many fear the fight and the sizeable expense, but in the end, it is more than worth it. Thank you for coming back and sharing this great news with us.


Serenew, this is not about being scared or tired or any other excuse you wish to use to defend this mother; this is about control. The need control not only the child, but also the father who wishes to have a relationship with their child. A custody battle is just that, a battle. When the relationship between the adults ends nothing else matters but the children.
Being a parent is not about how much work you did to bring the kid in to the world; what a twisted sense of reality. This father has every right to be proud of his son and to parade him around town as much as he sees fit. His parents have every right to be proud of him because he fought for his child.