For thousands of years parents spanked their children and it has always worked. Now with this new California style of parenting your not supposed to spank your children because.... I don't know. Spanking teaches real world Consequences for their actions. I'm sure a lot of it is that you're parents spanked you and you decided that since you didn't like it you wouldn't do it to your kids. We'll guess what... That's why they don't behave. If they say you don't love them because you spank them tell them it's because you love them that you spank them because it will keep them out of prison when they are older. If what your doing is not working try something different go back to the old school and see the results. As I tell my friends, family and anyone who will listen " have you ever tried sitting down with your kids turn off the TV and hitting them?" Let me know what you think.