i have a 6 year old out of control - FamilyEducation
i have a 6 year old out of control
01/14/2012 at 05:20 AM

i have a 6 year old daughter she will be 7 next month she bits,hits,kicks,call poeple hurtful names and scratches idon't know what to do she trys hurting me and in school she calls her teacher hurtful names and she crawls under the tables and throws her self on the floor can you help me i don't know what else to do noone wants to come over to my house because she hits and calls people nameswhen they come over she has special needs she has adhd,aggrassive behaviers

Has your child been diagnosed with ADHD? If so, is she on meds? My son was doing the similar stuff and he was diagnosed with ADHD & dyslexia. He is on meds now and he is a completely different kid. It is worth checking out.
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I have the same trouble with my 5 year old.He started preschool and was having trouble paying attention and being respectful. He was even aggres to other kids. Well after 2 years of this getting worse and trying counseling they dig him with adhd. adderall seemed to help and now he is back to acting worse than he did b4. Sometimes when he is screaming and throwing stuff its almost like he is possessed and kinda scary. Then his mood changes just like that just like nothing ever happened.he says he don't remem. All week I have heard I hate you and I want you to go away.I didn't think I would hear it from a 5 yr old. I feel like ive hit a brick wall and cant get through to him no matter what. He is a totally different kid than 2 yrs ago but even though he is mean to adults and other kids at school he is great around is baby brother and very protective of him so that puzzles me even more. Like I said I am lost and need to know where to start.
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It started in preschool now he is in kindergarden. I think there is something going on with him and I'm not sure what. He does have some emotional issues or serious mood swings. His teacher even acts like she don't want to deal with him and tried to have him moved to a spec edu class even though he is doing the work. I don't understand
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He might be having side effects of agression on Addarell. I know we had to try 3 meds before my son had no side effects. He is on concerta now. Usually when they have ADHD there is another diagnosis. Write an e-mail to the school and tell them you want a full evaluation, including dyslexia. Fyi- school will do nothing, until it's in writing. I would make sure he is not frustrated, because of school. Get results and see what that outcome is. My son is also taking multi-vitamins, b6/magnesum & omega-3's. And it has made a difference. He was a bedwetter, 2 weeks on all these no more I order off of kirkmanlabs. Read Jenny McCarty's book and she used that company for her son that is Autistic. !
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I also have a daughter that was diagnosed by Yale at 2 1/2 with Autism pdd. She started taking same vitamins at 2 1/2 and shows no signs of Autism. She just has a small speech delay. I have done a lot of research on Autism, Adhd and dyslexia and i think vitamins are critical since our foods have chemicals on them, which is destroying the nutrition. Avoid red 40-dye, makes kids very hyper. It's in everything! Good luck!
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Oh! Maybe teacher is bullying him? I just found out my son's teacher in 2nd grade was pulling his hair and called him lethargic (it was right when he started his meds). I never knew this was going on. I had pulled him out of the public school two months in 2nd grade. He is in a school that speciaizes in ADHD & dyslexia. He is happy now.
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everytime a child cant set still or shows sighns of aggresion they label them add or adhd. my son was labeled that and got worse once put on concerta witch led him to have health problems for awhile after two years of being on the meds, adhd can be treated without meds and with alot of patience. some children are diagnosed with adhd and end up finding out when they become adults that they are bipolar, thts what happened in my brothers case after years of ridalin. just to point out though to parents whom medicate with these pills that are a form of amphetamines that are addictive, what do you do when the child becomes an adult and cant take the meds anymore? you end up with a child that cant cope life because he has been doped up his whole childhood. so they turn to street drugs because they only know how to function medicated. trust me and do your research parents, i did before to much harm came to my son with the adhd medicine concerta.
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There are pros and cons to meds. They do help my son focus on his schooling and with listening at home and school. Before taking the meds, he would get into fights at school and could not stay seated in class. My brother (age 52) is ADHD and had dyslexia and it was never addressed. He ended up on painkillers. He was very successful, painkillers took over he lost everything. Studies also say, if the adhd is not addressed it can lead to addiction. They say with Adhd 80% of the time there is another condition. I am just saying ritalin would take care of ADHD, but not bipolar. I have a huge family and everyone is high strung. Most have Adhd and they addressed it. What I have noticed is that the ones that have addressed it, are very successful. ( like making millions). It was just an observation, that is I thought is very interesting. I do think vitamins & foods play a big part of these diagnosis. Our foods are tainted with too many bad chemicals that are affecting our bodies.
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What kind of health problems did your son have on concerta?
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The Case for Ritalin Ritalin, which is a brand name for methylphenidate, is an amphetamine type drug which is used to treat ADHD [Attention Defecit Hyperactivity Disorder]. The main characteristics of ADHD include an inability to concentrate, impulsivity and over-activity. Ritalin works on the neurotransmitters in the brain to produce dopamine, which in appropriate levels, helps to control some of the impulsivity and hyperactivity found in children with this disorder. Brain scans can show the difference between brain patterns in a ‘normal’ child and those in a child who has ADHD. They can also highlight the difference in the brain waves when Ritalin has been administered to the latter child. They show that the child is more focused so the drug works.
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The fact that Ritalin is categorised as a Class B drug and used to medicate children is a cause for concern, of course, but would there be the same level of concern if it was found to be the best treatment for a more physical disorder? ADHD may not be life threatening, but it can have far reaching effects for the child and the child’s entire family. It causes major disruption in the child’s class at school and can alienate the whole family as people can find the disorder difficult to comprehend. The use of Ritalin in children has been branded as ‘child abuse’ by some specialists, yet they can offer nothing more practical or effective.
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Another cause for concern is how many side effects there could be from taking Ritalin. There are possible side-effects with all medicines whether they are prescribed by your doctor or over the counter remedies. How many times have you read the leaflet which is enclosed with your prescription only to find a great list of possible side effects and wonder if suffering your ailment is preferable to the risk of those side effects? All children who are prescribed Ritalin are subject to regular health screening, which include weight, blood pressure and blood tests. They also get other kinds of counselling which may include psychiatric or psychological support. The child may be in special education or receiving some learning support at school.
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It is argued that the drug is used as a kind of medicinal cosh which turns the children into compliant ‘zombies’. I have wide personal experience of working with children who take Ritalin and did not see this ‘zombie’ effect. Additionally, it is claimed that because the children are rendered thus subdued, they lose their creativity and imagination. Famous people such as Einstein and Winston Churchill are cited as most probably having had ADHD and we are asked to consider if they would have achieved so much if they had taken Ritalin. I would ask you to consider how much more they could have achieved had they had this help to keep them more focused.
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The best way for me to illustrate the benefits of Ritalin is by telling you two short case histories. The boys documented are brothers. Brother A was born in 1976. When he was very young, his behaviour at home and later at nursery, was giving cause for concern. He became uncontrollable. When he started school, he couldn’t cope and many discussions ensued between parents, school and outside agencies such as Educational Psychologists. All their strategies were considered and tried out but never worked very well or for very long. The child was eventually enrolled into a special school. This school was specifically for children who had some kind of behavioural problem which the education system couldn’t cope with.
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He left school at sixteen, with little ability for even the basics, such as reading and writing, let alone any social skills. He was eventually diagnosed as having ADHD, but that came too late and he has spent his life since then drifting along doing odd jobs and cleaning work. He has a severe lack of confidence and will not seek or accept further help. He has very few friends and a limited social life.
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Brother B was born in 1989. This child started presenting with odd behaviour when he was only weeks old. As he developed, his behaviour became more and more uncontrollable and unacceptable. Nursery was very difficult for him and school was impossible. He was continually excluded in his first term in primary one and any time he was allowed in the building, it was to sit outside in the corridor or inside his headmistress’ office. He was withdrawn from school before primary two and given an hour a day home tutoring. Eventually, after an accident, he was seen by a psychiatrist at the hospital. He was then assessed, diagnosed as having ADHD and Asperger’s Syndrome, and prescribed Ritalin.
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Ritalin changed his life dramatically. He was suddenly able to concentrate and focus on what was going on around him. He resumed mainstream education, and although had missed out on two years ‘proper’ schooling, he was keeping up with his peers. He was enjoying school and all his reports were good. The difference was clearly visible in things like his handwriting, which suddenly became legible. He stayed on at school and did sixth year followed by two years at college. He is happy and has a good social life with a good group of friends.
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Consider the quality of life these two brothers had. What if the older boy had been given the advantages Ritalin has to offer? How much richer would his life have been? I know that it would have changed his life, and those of so many children destined to bleak futures. I know because I am the mother of those two boys and every day I live with the regret that my older son was not given this chance in life. Ritalin works!
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I think as mothers, we can only do the best we can with what life has handed us. My daughter was diagnosed at 2 1/2 yrs old by Yale with Autism. She is 7 now and I did everything in my power to get her help on my husband's military salary. And today, you would not see the autism. Two years ago I felt like I had failed my son. Here I was in a meeting with school begging them to test my son for dyslexia. They fought me, I hired attorney and found out he was dyslexic. He had been acting out, getting into trouble at school because he could not understand the work. He had gone under rhe radar and he was not getting help. I felt horrible that my daughter was getting all the help and he was not.
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So, we did take him out of public school and place him in a school that deals with ADHD and dyslexia. He is 8 yrs old and says,, they understand me now. Having to move around with the military and the affordablity of these schools will be the next challenges. So, I understand your story and commend you for your strength. I have ADHD & dyslexia and it was never addressed until my son was diagnosed. I struggled in school and relationships. I did the best I could and over came a lot of obsticles. My mother died when I was nine. my dad always worked. I am not sure where my self-esteem came from. I think it came from survival mode and adversity. I think All we can do for our kids is to continue to encourage and remind them, they can do anything they want. If they put their mind to it. I know if we empower them at any age.... It will go a long way!!!
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So, we did take him out of public school and place him in a school that deals with ADHD and dyslexia. He is 8 yrs old and says,, they understand me now. Having to move around with the military and the affordablity of these schools will be the next challenges. So, I understand your story and commend you for your strength. I have ADHD & dyslexia and it was never addressed until my son was diagnosed. I struggled in school and relationships. I did the best I could and over came a lot of obsticles. My mother died when I was nine. my dad always worked. I am not sure where my self-esteem came from. I think it came from survival mode and adversity. I think All we can do for our kids is to continue to encourage and remind them, they can do anything they want. If they put their mind to it. I know if we empower them at any age.... It will go a long way!!!
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my son was having horrible migraines for 5 years while taking concerta and was having trouble with his heart as well. now that he has been off the meds for 4 years the symptoms have dissapeared. children can be taught to control there hyper activity with counceling as well and a strict day to day routine helps with axciosnous.
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my son was having horrible migraines for 5 years while taking concerta and was having trouble with his heart as well. now that he has been off the meds for 4 years the symptoms have dissapeared. children can be taught to control there hyper activity with counceling as well and a strict day to day routine helps with axciosnous.
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try being child..........
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Have to disagree with you there lovelife. Not all children can be helped with counselling and strict routine alone. Some do need extra help and I will never regret my son having Concerta. He is now 23 and doing very well, unlike his 36 year old brother who never had it. I am glad you managed to help your child however. If you get the chance, look up the thread entitled 'I have a 6 year old out of control'
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i m completely agree with junieg
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I need help with my 5 year old son at school. the first part of the school year he has paid attention and a excelant student. after christmas i have seen a totaly diffrent child. Victor has beeb misbehaving at school like hitting other children, climbing in Windows, and yesterday we got a note saying that he broke a nother childs finger! when we ask him what happened he replys I DON'T KNOW.The teacher said he threw a Block at the child. What can i do...
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I teach kinder and it makes me sick to think of a teacher bullying or pulling hair. As for the teacher suggesting to have a student removed to a sped class please don't think that was bullying. That is an obligation of the teachers. If the students issues can't be addressed with a behavior contract and interventions the teacher must remove the child. The teacher cant apply for the sped class without lots of documentation that her efforts arent working and that the child is a threat to others. know it's hard to see past your own child but there are 20 other students in the room. If their behavior instills harm on a consistent basis to the other students that isn't fair. That child needs more modified and small group learning. Think about if you were the parent of a child coming home regularly hurt by another child in school. You'd want your child to be safe. One child can't stop the learning for all others.
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By no means however your children be written off. Do put things in writing. Have a doctor evaluate them. Most schools don't evaluate for ADHD. Give the school all information and push for help. Some teachers are lazy so get on them...respectfully. You could have an aid that helps through the district or get the behavior specialist involved. Please be patient with the teacher. Most of the district issues are out of their hands. Honey gets you further and know your child probably isn't the only one with issues. Diet is a huge factor as well as proper sleep. Think about what your doing at home. Try to make it high structure so they won't lash out when it becomes that at school. I'm not a huge proponent for meds just proper nutrition, limits, and communication. Ive seen too many children turn into zombies. They are easy to manage sure but often don't appear happy. Do your research with proper help, when caught early, you can reverse some behaviors naturally.
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I can understand, this could be so hard to manage. You love your daughter and want to help but she is wearing you out. No matter, Just consult your local child or family therapist as they are the one who can offer you some practical help as well as some support.
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Please be patient in handling the child and don't take any harsh steps. She needs your attention as well as your care. Also make sure that she gets the right medication.
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It seems to be an ADHD, please take your child to a specialist as the earlier the treatment is started the better otherwise it would take a much longer time. Also make sure that you stay patient with her and do not loose your cool.
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Littlekingdomch, that is a vast assumption. Of course some of the symptoms sound like ADHD. I have had two sons with that condition, but people are so ready to blame any bad behaviour on that these days. Yes, most definitely get it checked out, but be prepared for a lot of hard work using various other strategies before going down the ADHD road
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